A "Throwback Thursday" rumination on a night in 1957, and 1970s/80s new radio drama in the US (including imports)

On the night of 9 January 1957, in Milwaukee, WI, you could at 8pm have chosen to watch on television the NBC station WTMJ Channel 4 with an in-color broadcast of Kraft Television Theater: "Six Hours of Terror" starring Theodore Bikel; on the NTA Film Network station WITI Ch. 6 the film Gangway for Tomorrow (1943, with Robert Ryan and John Carradine--a Racket Squad repeat would follow at 9:30); The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet on the ABC station, WISN-TV12, or on the still somewhat experimental CBS-owned UHF station WXIX 19, The Millionaire (episode "The Story of Nancy Wellington" featuring Anita Louise). You couldn't yet tune in WMVS TV10, the National Educational Television station that would go on-the-air later in the year, after some local and national resistance from the commercial stations and their allies, but support from among others the Socialist Party Mayor of Milwaukee from 1948-1960, Frank Zeidler; among the first programs it would carry would be The Friendly Giant, from Madison, WI public station WHA, a series that would run nationally on NET for at least a dozen years (PBS then took over) and on the CBC till 1984, and in repeats afterward (apparently a Kukla, Fran & Ollie-esque puppet sketch and music series mostly for children). Or you could've opted to tune in, at 8pm, WTMJ-AM, the NBC Radio station, and listened to the first broadcast of X Minus One's adaptation of the Theodore Sturgeon story "A Saucer of Loneliness"; unless you were listening to the CBS radio station instead for The World Tonight newscast, followed at 8:30 pm by, no kidding, Amos & Andy, still in production; I probably would've stuck with NBC radio for the Nelson Olmsted dramatic reading series Sleep No More at 8:30 (featuring A. M. Burrage's "The Waxwork" and Ambrose Bierce's "The Man and the Snake"). 

8pm on a winter Wednesday night in the Midwest.




My mother was often indulgent of my childhood requests for such things as books, magazines and records, but not always, and one item she did not agree to buy for me was the Vanguard Records omnibus album of the Olmsted Sleep No More readings on LP he'd done for them:

While I hardly ever make an effort to see 60 Minutes any more, I have been finding myself, while on the road in the 7pm hour on Sundays, listening to it on the CBS Radio station KYW-AM (Philadelphia). (I will have to watch eventually and soon to see how Morley Safer looks these days; he sounds every minute of his 85 years of age.) It reminds me of when, my family having just moved to Hawaii in 1979 and living in each other's pockets in a one-bedroom condo in Waikiki for the summer, if I was bored with the late-season Mission: Impossible repeat my parents were watching on cable in the living room, and I didn't feel like going down to the lobby of Discovery Bay and reading a back issue of Fantastic or Fantasy and Science Fiction I'd bought at Froggy's that week, I might go into my parents' room and listen to the CBS Radio drama series, The Sears Radio Theater and The CBS Radio Mystery Theater, running from 8p-10p weeknights on the Honolulu CBS station...when Hawaii finally got an NPR station, listening to the various dramatic series they would try out...catching The World Tonight on CBS Radio in the '80s when not instead catching the Pacifica Evening News or All Things Considered on the DC public stations (I think I pretty much completely missed Monitor on NBC)...and I felt the loss of broadcast access to Pacifica when Temple University's station dumped its affiliation over Mumia Abu-Jamal doing commentary for the network (In my first year in Philadelphia, I was the local presenter of Radio  Nation and The Progressive magazine's Second Opinion on WPPR-FM in the second hour of my Sunday shift, 10p-Midnight...Sweet Freedom the radio series...much as I had been in Fairfax County, VA, on WCXS/WEBR for some years previous...the only downside to being on 8-10p Sundays in the DC area was in missing some of The Big Broadcast on WAMU.) 60 Minutes works reasonably well on the radio, and you can do worse while driving than to parse how as well as what they choose to tell us about whatever they're talking about.

Archives of episodes for streaming, or at worst samples and approximations:

The CBS Radio Mystery Theater

(The) Zero Hour

Earplay

Hollywood Theater of the Ear: 2000x

Sears Radio Theater; Mutual Radio Theater

The Lord of the Rings

Nightfall

Bob and Ray (1950s-70s); NPR 1987 episode 

NBC Monitor in the 70s; Gene Rayburn as host interviewing  Jean Shepherd; penultimate Monitor  hour w/Bob & Ray

Firesign Theater radio series episodes

Nick Danger on The Daily Feed

The Credibility Gap (tv sketch)

Le Show

National Lampoon Radio Hour episode; clips

The Fourth Tower of Inverness episode; ZBS

Pacifica Radio Archive

Mind's Eye Theater (Pacifica): "The Girl Had Guts" (dramatic reading of the Theodore Sturgeon story)

General Mills (later CBS) Radio Adventure Theater: episodes

The End of the Road

A Prairie Home Companion

Star Wars

LA Theater Works: recent episodes and more

and on FaceBook, Kim Jones was nostalgic about a series of fillers, which I'd missed altogether: 

Ellery Queen's Minute Mysteries

The National Radio Theater of Chicago and The Hollywood Theater of the Ear 

Michael McKean and Harry Shearer of the Credibility Gap respond to the Kent State shootings:

Pacifica Radio Archives: drama

Mind's Eye Theater

and ongoing (here and here): 

The David Feldman Show: Teri Garr and many more

 

Teri Garr

with Paul Dooley, Paul F. Tompkins, Fred Stoller, Eddie Pepitone, Janie Haddad Tompkins, Mark Thompson, Frank Conniff, Jeremy S. Kramer, Ben Zelevansky and Chris Pina. Our show is written by Steve Rosenfield, Guy Nicolucci, Ben Zelevansky, Paul Dooley, Frank Conniff, Dylan Brody, Eddie Pepitone and Karen Simmons. We are mixed and engineered by Alex Steen. Edited by Darren Ayres, and our production assistant is Alicia Cordova. Our Executive Producer is Troy Conrad.

The recurring "ads" teasing the gritty CBS cop show (parody) Muntz might just be the highlight of this episode of the Pacifica Radio series, up at the link on Garr's name...
 

Saturday Music Club: why this blog is called Sweet Freedom...

Well, because I did, for a long time with my ex, Donna Wilson, a radio show called Sweet Freedom, first on WGMU-AM at George Mason University, then at WCXS (then WEBR, now Radio Fairfax) cable radio in Fairfax County, VA, and finally so far at WPPR-FM (now basically the Prometheus Radio Project) in Philadelphia  That lasted, with interruption, for just under a decade of weekly broadcasting/cablecasting/narrowcasting.

The CBS reissue I had first.

And, of course, because I've been a libertarian socialist for essentially all my political life. (That I've been a diagnosed diabetic with a savage sweet tooth throughout most of the years I've used the title gives a bit of resonance to it, too.)

But also, and certainly not least, because of the Freedom Now Suite composed by Max Roach and Oscar Brown, Jr., and performed by various Roach groups over the years (initially on record with a band including Abbey Lincoln, Babatunde Olatunji and Coleman Hawkins), and the Sonny Rollins composition Freedom Suite.

("Socialist Jazz" is a dismissive if teasing nick-name some fellow high-school students came up with for me. Rather difficult for me, at the time nor since, to be insulted by that combo, however overdetermined it might be, even given how it was intended.)





An interview segment, essentially, below...as one commenter on the YT post notes, "Freedom Suite" was hardly the first political statement among jazz instrumentals...


I didn't remember the Rascals' album when I named the radio show, but its resonances didn't upset me, either:


The Michael McDonald song for the Running Scared soundtrack wasn't on my radar at all at the time. Nor the much earlier Uriah Heep song.

INDEPENDENT LENS: Wonder Women! The Untold Story of American Superheroines; Susan Orlean on The JV Club

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Watch Wonder Women! The Untold Story of American Superheroines on PBS. Video archived here.  See more from Independent Lens.

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Writer Susan Orlean interviewed by Janet Varney:
This week multiple literal and metaphorical doors are knocked on and opened when Susan Orlean (The Orchid Thief! The Bullfighter Checks Her Makeup! Many other amazing books and essays!) and special guest star, her son Austin, stop by to unsettle Scott the Dog. Plus, find out why Janet suggests Susan’s nickname be “Puddin.”

A few tv and radio notes...

CBS, having noted that Julianna Margulies is cute, has decided that's how to sell the series this season.
The new season: So, in my less than copious free time, I've managed to catch pieces of, rather than whole episodes of, the new series The Playboy Club, Pan Am, Unforgettable, Person of Interest, the remakes of Charlie's Angels and Prime Suspect. Of these, Prime Suspect was the least inept, but vied with most of the others in ridiculousness...the detectives that Maria Bello's character has to contend with are not just machismic cartoons, they're moreso in 2011 than, say, the early 1970s clowns in the US remake of Life on Mars, where the locker-room antics and inexperience with having to treat women as colleagues at least made a modicum of sense. Bello manages to be as good as possible, if not given much to work with on the home-front, either, dealing with her manfriend's exacting ex-wife. The two historical drama series are clumsy, if well-appointed, attempts (as everyone has noted) to steal Mad Men's low-rated thunder (while adding, say, at least a dash of Las Vegas's mindless cheesecake and "kicks"...and failing to be even as engaging as was that lightweight series of a few seasons back). As I've noted elsewhere, CBS's "midseason" experiment in 2008, Swingtown, which had at least as many roots in the film of The Ice Storm, will probably stand as the least embarrassing of the broadcast nets' MM ripoffs (even given that the All-American protagonists were played by a fine, Canadian Molly Parker and Briton Jack Davenport sporting an inconsistent "Yank" accent that sounded a lot like his fake Australian for an episode of Coupling).

At least The Good Wife seems to be holding up so far.

The only new sitcom I've caught so far is Whitney, the pilot of which was available online in pieces all summer, and which pilot holds together better as a whole, while being only reasonably good-grade mechanical relationship fodder, heightened in the contrived situations by some good acting.

Most notable cognitive dissonance in scheduling: FamilyNet, the more or less conservative evangelical Christian network managed by the younger Robert Schuller (inheritor of the Crystal Cathedral--as of this past summer, both Schullers have left that church, in the midst of hurt feelings and controversy), is trying to snag some of the audience that such new digital broadcast networks as Retro TV, This TV, Me TV, and Antenna TV have been racking up with somewhat engaging collections of repeats and films...FamilyNet has turned much of its primetime over to, of all series, Lou Grant, cancelled by CBS mostly to make the Reagan Administration happy all those years ago. The Xiancaster also is now willing to run such films as The French Connection...with the dialog they and their audience might find offensive silenced...in the case of that film, about a third of the soundtrack was blanked out.

Tales well calculated to keep you in...anomie (or Anxiety, as Bob and Ray had it): The very late (1962) episode of Suspense on WAMU's The Big Broadcast on Sunday, #925 "Hide & Seek," from just before the end of its CBS Radio run, was remarkably bleak, even in its brevity (by then, the episodes ran 23 minutes to accommodate network news on the hour as well as commercials), about medium Manhunt level...it won't live forever in the history of drama, but it's definitely worth a listen, in a good set that also includes John Wayne and Ward Bond in an adaptation of "Fort Apache" and Bogart with Greer Garson in a Lux Radio Theater version of "The African Queen"...and the usual Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar, Dragnet, and Gunsmoke episodes.

Commuter's grouse: Why might the local NPR and CBS radio stations' traffic reporters, and even NavTeq's relatively new digital broadcast television service devoted to traffic coverage, choose to refer to traffic moving at about a literal 2MPH (or less, for long stretches) as Slow? Slow on a highway is fifteen miles per hour below the speed limit. Standstills are standstills. Parked cars are not moving "slowly." Thus does Andy Rooney instruct you to remove yourself from his grasspatch.

utterly charming: Josie Long: All of the Planet's Wonders (Shown In Detail)

As BBC Radio 4 puts it on their website:
"Comedy series in which Josie Long attempts to better herself through learning from reference books, with help from Irish comedienne Maeve Higgins."

Unfortunately, you have only one day left to hear the first of the four episodes, which were stripped last week. But they are eminently worth making time for (and the following three episodes will each be taken down one day after the previous).

As the first one's longer blurb goes:
Award winning comedian, Josie Long (BBC New Comedy Awards, if.comedy Best Newcomer 2006) presents her first radio series, in which she aims to explore all of the planet's wonders (in detail) over four 14 minute episodes.

This comedy series is all about Long's desire to better herself through learning and her enjoyment of discovering things in reference books.

Josie is joined by Irish comedian, Maeve Higgins, and by a variety of comedic guests -Robin Ince, Chris Neill, Daniel Harkin, Henning Wehn and Isy Suttie, plus the occasional actual expert.

Each episode is anchored by Josie and Maeve in the studio, with Josie presenting her essay on the week's given subject and Maeve helping with questions, illustrations and interruptions. The guests help to play extra characters or to provide specialist advice.

This week, Josie uses the book "Astronomy for Dummies" to try and unravel the greater mysteries of the cosmos.

I liked it a lot. The Sound of Young America's Jesse Thorn makes a guest appearance.

The Fear of Sanity: the Rally and the Election

Well, I tried, if not extraordinarily hard, to attend the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear at the National Mall on Saturday. My brother and sister-in-law were amused enough by the prospect to fly over from Silicon Valley, so it was an opportunity for a brief family reunion. I wasn't too enthusiastic about the message of the rally, which was predicated on the notion that leftists such as myself were equally culpable with the right for the problems we face, while centrists such as Jon "Stewart" and Stephen Colbert (when not in persona) were comparitively noble creatures of measured judgement and sweet reason. You know, in the manner of such fine centrist administrators as Obama, Clinton, Carter, Ford, Nixon...



(It has occurred to me that Obama has spent his entire political life in areas where the Democratic Party is the inarguably dominant/business as usual/corruption of power/default Establishment party--the not particularly progressive Democratic Party machines, despite occasional and usually smothered outbursts of reform, of Hawaii, Boston/Cambridge, and Chicagoland. This might help to explain a number of his failings, some of which have been much chewed over today, including by he himself.)

And the election has followed, with a very mixed bag of results...notable how many of the Tea Partisans have failed to be elected, particularly when they were making the claim of being the populist expressions in their districts as opposed to just Republicans with vociferous cheering sections (and money from such Republican PACs as the "Tea Party Express")...the most "outsidery/mavericky" of the Teabaggers to be elected, at least to get much national attention, Rand Paul, not only had his father's organization to support him but had a Democratic opponent who attempted to attack him from the right--I tend to think of this as Doing a Joe Leiberman). The Tea Partisans are going to be "tamed," as much as they aren't already. The Democrats got yet another lesson as to why it's necessary for them to not simply be, as they have been for most of the last forty years, the less crazy echo of the Republicans. Harry Reid's smarmy statement of how he and his colleagues need to Work Together, Boldly Ignoring the Far Left and Far Right, to continue offering the kind of clumsy governance they've offered so far is just a small example of the kind of irritation we get to suffer...as we continue to suffer more from their actions and inactions, as well as those of their fellow corporatists, ranging with few exceptions from the political dead center to the extreme right.

At least on Saturday I didn't quite miss the Philadelphia debut of the traveling version of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me..., the NPR comedy news-quiz series...I heard it live via WYPR-FM in Baltimore and WAMU-FM in DC, as opposed to the afternoon delay broadcast in Philly by WHYY, while trying to make my way through the ridiculously slow southbound traffic on I-95 (also thus saving the price of a ticket to the Academy of Music, wherein the audience was subjected in person to Bobby McFerrin's aggressive self-congratulation). So slow that I heard the coverage of the rally on DC's FM broadcast signal of C-SPAN Radio for the first hour and a half of its run, excepting the musical introductory set by the Roots (the Philadelphia-based rap/funk band currently working as the house orchestra for NBC's Late Night with a Boring Guy with Good Taste in Music), some of it with John "Legend", with whom they've recently released an album (the Roots were to support the other musical actions throughout the show). Eric and Paula were less fortunate in their attempts to see and hear what was going on...after bad jam ups at the DC-area commuter rail Metro, they were able to arrive about 45 minutes late, and far enough back that the available JumboTrons and loudspeakers could only infrequently be clearly perceived. By the time I made it to a Metro station with iffy parking, I decided to simply go to my parents' home and watch the coverage on Comedy Central and C-SPAN (a pretty rare, if not unique, simulcast).

The rally went on without the small stack of fliers I had in support of my sign proclaiming God Hates Mopes, one of a number of parodies of that fine Christian band of jackasses who enjoy disrupting the funeral services of various people they have no rational reason to disrupt (among those seen at the rally, God Hates Figs and God Hates Snuggies).

The text of my flier (composed in few minutes the night before, and seeming just like it):

God Hates Mopes!
Don’t support the lifestyle choice that depressives and sad-sacks choose to choose for their lifestyles!

Sad people wilt our crops!

Their tears deplete our precious bodily fluids, and lead to unnecessary shortages of the sports drinks WE ALL NEED to keep those fluids topped off!

Their medicines and headshrinking deplete our pocketbooks and wallets, if we’re men who don’t carry purses…the way mopey men sometimes do!

Look at them just moping over there! God Hates Mopes!

Don’t Mope!
The Society to Let Everyone Know That God Hates Mopes Approves of This Message.

More radio and podcast links: comedy and comedians

BBC Radio 4's Comedy page...access to (at least this week's set of) BBC audio sketch shows and sitcoms. BBC Radio 7 takes some repeats from 4 and adds some more material.

Comedy and Everything Else, Jimmy Dore and Stef Zamarano's podcast (which sometimes cross-riffs with Dore's Pacifica Radio series), notable for a pronounced though very much not doctrinaire leftist stance, and a lot of good food.

Comedy Death Ray Radio, Scott Aukerman's interview, sketch and music showcase...originally comedy/novelty music for the most part, but increasingly moving away from that as the better comedy music is growing scarce. Perhaps the most uneven of the programs listed here...can drag a bit, particularly in the lesser sessions of Aukerman's recurring games of "Would You Rather...", but also can be devastatingly hilarious...more elaborate showcases for improv parody-character sketches than most of the podcasts, as well, which often are the funniest bits. In fact, an episode in which Jimmy Pardo and his regulars filled in as hosts, and featuring an extended improv by Maria Bamford and Paul Gilmartin and music from the charming Garfunkel & Oates, might still be my favorite. Also on the Earwolf pages, the Sklar Brothers' sports and comedy podcast Sklarbro Country is also charming, if a bit literally too inside baseball, etc., to sustain my attention as readily.

Dork Forest Radio, Jackie Kashian's formerly lo-fi podcast (on lo-fi BlogTalkRadio) is a charming delving into all kinds of geekery, or what Kashian dubs the Dork Forest. (See also, The Nerdist) Uniquely among these podcasts, when on BlogTalk Radio, there was a live chatroom running alongside the live podcast...Kashian is trying to decide what she'll do about that with the new, undistorted-audio format. Kashian is also probably the most gentle of podcast hosts, though unafraid of asking, usually politely and/or self-deprecatingly, the hard questions.

Doug Loves Movies, Doug Benson's gameshow/interview podcast, the game usually all about trying to guess a movie title with as few clues as possible from Leonard Maltin's film-guides. Benson also usually has a few words to say about recent viewing experiences, and the guests are usually a mix of comedians, actors (Elisabeth Shue confirmed your suspicions about Paul Verhoeven), and occasionally Leonard Maltin.

The Firesign Theater Radio Hour as dusted off and presented by WFMU
The Firesigns refined and concentrated their best work on their records, from Waiting for the Electrician or Someone Like Him onward, with the exception of the radio-show sampler Dear Friends where even there most of the examples taken are no longer than five minutes...the hours could ramble (even more!), but do demonstrate the influences ranging from Bob and Ray through Ken Nordine to the Goons. So far, I like the third one best. But I at least like them all.

Harry Shearer's Le Show sometimes is dismissed or criticizaed out of hand by folks on some of the podcasts...podcasts that probably wouldn't've existed without the Loooong-standing example of Shearer's mix of music, monolog, and sketches (almost always one-person prductions in which Shearer does all the voices). Shearer's wife, the excellent jazz-pop singer Judith Owen, is often heard in the musical segments.

The Long Shot, a relatively new podcast featuring the disparate quartet of comedians Eddie Pepitone, Sean Conroy, Jamie Flam, and Amber Kenny, who amusingly, acerbically chat, do audio sketches, and feature guests...so disparate that guest Tig Notaro asked them, "How do you all even know each other?"

The Nerdist podcast, a key component of the larger Nerdist.com, features a crew spearheaded by Chris Hardwick, whose credits run from standup to cohosting Wired Science on PBS; he's most regularly visible on G4, and he and his partners, or he alone, interview a range of guests only slightly less wide-ranging than Jackie Kashian (see The Dork Forest). Hardwick in the most recent episode railed against those who criticize him for kissing his guests' asses, correctly noting that what could be cynically (if unsurprisingly) miscontrued thus is his genuine enthusiasm for speaking with the guests, riffing cheerfully, and generally trying to share his passions.

Never Not Funny, Jimmy Pardo's podcast, usually featuring Matt Belknap, the proprietor of A Special Thing, and one of the oldest of the continuing series (with Kashian's Dork Forest). The link is to the free feed, as NNF offers a free first twenty or so minutes as an enticement, then offers the rest of a given episode only to paying subscribers...Pardo's mock aggression, almost always immediately self-deflated, mixes well with his slightly retro persona.

The Pod F. Tomcast, Paul F. Tompkins's new performance and interview podcast, is as distinctive as his performances tend to be...at least so far, with only two episodes up so far.

The Sound of Young America, etc.: MaximumFun.org gets one podcasts of TSOYA elements and also the more informal and uncensored Jordan, Jesse, Go! among other bits and pieces, including the Canadian Stop Podcasting Yourself and the college-station years of TSOYA, and archival bits from San Francisco legends Mal Sharpe and James Coyle. Colin Marshall's text reviews of podcasts are wide-ranging and thoughtful, as well as frequently funny.

Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me..., NPR's primary humor series (unless we consider Car Talk also primarily a humor series), remains a pleasant and frequently hilarious news-quiz game show, with comedians and writers competing for meaningless points, and guests competing on behalf of audience members. The comparable PRI series Whad'Ya Know?, features a somewhat more rambling style and fewer guests in the gameshow seqments, though also features a fine jazz combo. CBC's comedy and whimsy series Wiretap also gets a fair amount of clearance in the States...and averages perhaps a bit better in that wise than such more popular US series A Prairie Home Companion or This American Life. I'll put in a plug here for the not quite primarily humorous series On the Media and pop-science series RadioLab. Just a notch below these is Studio 360.

Weezy and the Swish is the only "dead" podcast that I list here (at least so far), Louise Palanker and Laura Swisher's project, one of the earlier comedian podcasts, and still one of the few not hosted mostly and entirely by Caucasian men. A smattering of their episodes archived here.

WTF, the Marc Maron podcast, one of the most attention-getting as Maron probes himself and his guests usually a bit more relentlessly, yet for the most part professionally (Maron's experience on Air America and with BreakRoom Live tells) than most of his peers. A mixture of usually one-on-one interviews interspersed with a sporadic set of talk-show-style multi-guest live episodes, both eminently worth catching.

...and for more pointers to comedy audio and more, see Punchline magazine online...

The Big Broadcast celebrates a century of Norman Corwin

WAMU's Sunday night umbrella of vintage radio, The Big Broadcast, has devoted a couple of hours plus to Norman Corwin's impressionisitc documentaries, for those who'd like to sample them or recall them. (After 90 minutes of (usually good) Big Broadcast staples: Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar, Dragnet, and Gunsmoke. Dragnet's hostility toward the general public can be a bit trying (nearly every witness tries to make her- or himself the star of their account or otherwise is a pain in the ass).

I must admit I often have found Corwin florid over the years, and Orson Welles's narration does nothing to overcome the wartime Chauvinism against the Japanese in the first offer...wartime, yes...atrocities, yes...still hard to take the demonisation of the entire people.

The Lawrence Sweeney Mix (BBC Radio 4 improvised comedy series)

The Lawrence Sweeney Mix is a fine project of Josie Lawrence (most visible in the States as a stalwart of the original Whose Line Is It Anyway?) and Jim Sweeney, and aside from being quite funny (by me), and unusually for Radio 4 on a "stripped" (Monday-Thursday) schedule rather than offered weekly...so one can (at this hour) hear three of the four episodes they are going to do in this second "series" (or "season" for us in the States)...what's most unusual about it for those used to the "Chicago school" of improvised comedy and drama is that they flagrantly break the Yes And rule...Lawrence and Sweeney frequently say No, or completely undermine the reality the other is suggesting, but are deft enough to keep the game going.

Good audience participation as well. (And do check this out sooner rather than later, as Radio 4, at least, usually keeps items such as this up for only a week...though Radio 7 and the World Service might have it up for longer...).